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title: "Microsoft's Smart Application Control: A Risky Business Case Podcast"
description: "Patrick Gray interviews Airlock Digital's CEO and CTO about Microsoft's Smart Application Control feature, challenges, and limitations on allowlisting."
source: https://www.airlockdigital.com/airlock-blog/risky-business-why-microsoft-smart-application-control-is-very-strange
---

# Microsoft's Smart Application Control: A Risky Business Case Podcast

[David Cottingham](https://www.airlockdigital.com/airlock-blog/author/david)

10th 
November 
2023

## Soap Box Podcast

In this Soap Box podcast Patrick Gray interviews Airlock Digital CTO Daniel Schell and CEO David Cottingham about Microsoft’s new Smart Application Control feature, why controlling browser extensions via endpoint instrumentation is really hard and why PAM solutions don’t actually do allowlisting, even if they claim they do.

You can listen to the episode here: <https://risky.biz/soapbox69/>

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