---
title: "Airlock Digital on Risky Business Podcast"
description: "Airlock Digital featured on Risky Biz Podcast where conversation includes allowlisting and commentary on current security topics and news."
source: https://www.airlockdigital.com/airlock-digital-risky-biz
---

Airlock Digital

# Risky Biz Podcasts

## Airlock Digital + Risky Biz Podcast

We love to be part of the conversations surrounding security.
This is why we often join our friends on the [Risky Business Podcast](https://risky.biz/risky-business/).
**Catch us on an upcoming episode.**

[![riskybiz logo]](https://risky.biz/risky-business/)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Team PCP Stole GitHub's Internal Repos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iYqHwu40uc&list=PLb8lc4bom6gdtWyKsKdJtaDobCIFf9vRZ&index=17)

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and James Wilson discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They cover:

- TeamPCP breached GitHub’s internal repos. Now what?
- Some absolute plonker glued Coruna to a hijacked npm package
- CISA is worried about about open source and wants third party submissions for KEV
- AI infrastructure is "systemically" insecure
- Much, much more

This week’s episode is sponsored by allowlisting vendor Airlock Digital. Airlock's founders David Cottingham and Daniel Schell join Patrick Gray to talk about Microsoft briefly flagging DigitCert’s root certificate as malware. Fun!

[Watch this episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iYqHwu40uc&list=PLb8lc4bom6gdtWyKsKdJtaDobCIFf9vRZ&index=17)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Application Allowlisting, But Not As You Know It](https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI122/)

In this Risky Business sponsored interview, James Wilson chats with Airlock Digital co-founders, David Cottingham and Daniel Schell, about how they’re moving up the stack from file-based allowlisting to application-based allowlisting. David and Daniel explain how they’re making a seamless and quite logical move into application allowlisting, but with a new take on the technique.

[Listen to this episode](https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI122/)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [It Took a Decade, but Allowlisting is Cool Again](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ztwRRcJDl8)

In this Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray sits down with Airlock Digital co-founders Daniel Schell and David Cottingham to talk about the role AI models could play in managing enterprise allowlists. 

They also talk about the durability of allowlisting as a control. After 12 years in business, the Airlock product hasn't really changed all that much. That's a good thing! It also means the Airlock team have been able to spend some time doing deep engineering instead of chasing the latest attacker TTPs and writing detection rules for them.

[Watch this episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ztwRRcJDl8)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Asian fraud kingpin will face Chinese justice (pew pew!)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fsZklyapss&t=2533s)

Risky Business returns for 2026! Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau talk through the week's cybersecurity news, including:

- Santa brings hackers MongoDB memory leaks for Christmas
- Vercel pays out a million bucks to improve its React2Shell WAF defences
- 39C3 delivers; the pink Power Ranger deletes nazis, while a catgirl ruins GnuPG
- Cambodian scam compound kingpin gets extradited to China, and we don't think it'll go well for him
- Krebs picks apart the Kimwolf botnet and residential proxy networks
- So many healthcare data leaks that we have a roundup section

This week's episode is sponsored by Airlock Digital. The founders of the application allow-listing vendor, David Cottingham and Daniel Schell, discuss Microsoft's ClickOnce .NET app packaging, and how attackers have been abusing it to load code. Airlock hates it when you load code!

[Watch this episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fsZklyapss&t=2533s)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [The Challenge of Managing Browser Extensions](https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI99/)

Casey Ellis chats to David Cottingham and Daniel Schell from Airlock Digital. They discuss the challenge of browser extension management for enterprises, why it’s a priority and how Airlock Digital can help.

[Listen to this episode](https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI99/)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Product Demo - Application Allowlisting that Works at Scale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxUmmZR_4E&t=3s)

In this product demo of the Airlock Digital application control and allowlisting solution, Patrick Gray speaks with Airlock Digital co-founders David Cottingham and Daniel Schell. This demo covers:

- Granular execution control across Windows, Mac, and Linux endpoints
- Airlock Digital deployment options, including on-premises, cloud, and SaaS
- UX and UI designed for ease of management in minutes a day
- Deny by default proactive code with behavior detection
- Enterprise scale to 100K endpoints and beyond

[Watch this episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxUmmZR_4E&t=3s)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Everyone's SharePoint gets Shelled](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3q4LG5yvg)

In this Risky Business video podcast, CEO David Cottingham talks through what it takes to build a mature, resilient management platform for a security critical system.

[Watch this episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3q4LG5yvg)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [When Standards Drive Innovation](https://www.airlockdigital.com/airlock-blog/risky-when-standards-drive-innovation)

In this Risky Business News interview, Tom Uren talks to Daniel Schell, CTO and David Cottingham CEO of Airlock Digital. They discuss the security standard that drove innovation and the genesis of Airlock Digital and also how to make sure that standards don’t become box-checking exercises.

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/dd14b137-0eb0-4b85-a670-7c65a3e51490)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [LockBit is down but not out. Yet.](https://www.airlockdigital.com/airlock-blog/risky-lockbit-is-down)

In this Risky Business episode, Airlock Digital’s Daniel Schell talks about his adventures with WDAC, and Dave Cottingham predicts Windows 12 will go all in on signed code.

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/eb4c42fd-8a6c-4eb2-a8fc-0ebf825bafd4)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Airlock Digital's co-founders on Securing PowerShell](https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI18/)

In this Risky Business episode, Catalin Cimpanu talks with Airlock Digital founders Daniel Schell and David Cottingham about the recent Microsoft Digital Defense Report and the problems that come with trying to properly secure PowerShell.

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/209ea19b-8aaf-4a51-b65e-074b8208cabb)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Defeating Living off the Land](https://risky.biz/soapbox77/)

In this Risky Business episode, we’re going to be talking about a great topic – living off the land.

The recent Volt Typhoon report out of Microsoft chronicled the adventures of a Chinese APT crew in US critical infrastructure. But one of the most fascinating aspects of the Volt Typhoon campaign was that the attackers almost exclusively used so-called "living off the land techniques".

So the question becomes – what can you do about an attacker in your environment who has privilege and isn’t using malware?

Guests David Cottingham and Daniel Schell, the CEO and CTO of Airlock Digital, join the show to talk it through.

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/58a63fec-926a-4b92-9973-b782c438a93f)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Why Allowlisting is Ready for Prime Time](https://risky.biz/RB666/)

In this Risky Business podcast, Airlock Digital co-founders Daniel Schell and Dave Cottingham join host Patrick Gray to talk about:

- What an effective allowlisting program looks like
- Why the third party allowlisting industry failed the first time
- What you can achieve with Microsoft tooling versus specialist tools
- How much effort is involved to do this right

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/635f1810-4885-4a87-96f9-f0e8835b8ab3)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Kernel a Security Boundary?](https://risky.biz/RB688/)

In this Risky Business episode, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss Samsung, LG Android signing keys pinched, LastPass gets owned again, APT41 steal covid relief money, and many other news. Airlock joins host Patrick Gray  to talk about admin to kernel as a security boundary, and the limitations of kernel driver blocklists

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/07c48e67-abe9-4954-892b-5845ef96b0a1)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Microsoft's Smart Application Control is very strange](https://risky.biz/soapbox69/)

In this Risky Business episode, Patrick Gray interviews Airlock Digital CTO Daniel Schell and CEO David Cottingham about Microsoft’s new Smart Application Control feature, why controlling browser extensions via endpoint instrumentation is really hard and why PAM solutions don’t actually do allowlisting, even if they claim they do.

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/2030fd45-a50a-4ce3-b7e5-905942ddb90a)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [VSTO Office Files](https://risky.biz/RB666/)

In this Risky Business episode, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss security news. Airlock Digital co-founder and CTO Daniel Schell gives an interview. He walks listeners through some of his own research into how to own Microsoft boxes via document-embedded office add-ins.

[![Listen to this episode]](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/3914638/3bbed29f-41c6-43df-a399-72fc905dc55a)

#### Risky Business Podcast

### [Simple To Use](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPNfWWTDhCc)

In this Risky Business video podcast, David Cottingham, CEO of Airlock Digital, shows Patrick Gray from Risky.Biz how the Airlock Digital execution control and allowlisting solution works.

[Watch this episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPNfWWTDhCc)
